
The Winning Time Podcast
2 Seasons | Episodes | TV-MA
The official podcast companion to the HBO Original series Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty. Rodney Barnes speaks with Jeff Pearlman and the actors, directors, and key collaborators who brought the 1980s Showtime Lakers to life.
Season-1 Episodes
Season-1 Episodes
One Ring Don't Make a Dynasty
Sportswriter Jeff Pearlman joins host Rodney Barnes to discuss the real events depicted in the first episode of Season 2. Rodney discusses the dual crises Magic finds himself in with actors Quincy Isaiah and Rob Morgan. Also, music supervisor Gabe Hilfer.
The Magic Is Back
Rodney and Jeff talk about Magic coming back to the team after his injury and how the team felt about Paul Westhead at the time. Rodney dives into the show's portrayal of Stormin' Norman Nixon.
The Second Coming
Director Todd Banhazl joins host Rodney Barnes to talk about telling the story of Larry Bird like a spaghetti western. Assistant director Sal Sutera gives behind-the-scenes insight into working with background actors on some of the show's crowd scenes.
The New World
Composer Robert Glasper breaks down the process of writing the Winning Time score. Jeff and Rodney discuss Magic's $25 million contract and Paul Westhead's catastrophic SI photoshoot. Rodney chats with Sanna Seppanen, head of the show's hair department.
The Hamburger Hamlet
Tanya Hamilton unpacks her actor-driven approach to directing. Jeff and Rodney talk about how the Magic/Westhead story changed sports forever. Jason Clarke (Jerry West) talks about the energy and humor he brings to the role.
Beat L.A.
Ex-NBA All-Star Baron Davis offers his take on Winning Time, the singular talents of Magic and Kareem, and how the league has changed since the Showtime era. Jeff and Rodney discuss the buildup to the 1983 finals and Kareem's relationship with his fans.
What Is and What Should Never Be
Director Salli Richardson-Whitfield breaks down key scenes in the Season 2 finale. Jeff and Rodney discuss the social, interpersonal, and racial elements that made the real-life Lakers/Celtics rivalry so intense. Also, costume designer Emma Potter.









